AROS

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(Optimizer)

I don't know exactly what is the solution to make AROS become a reality. So I would like to collect here your ideas about this.
Feel free to send me your opinion using the form below. Thanks.

Here are some ideas (yours will be added as soon as I received them):

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Aaron "Optimizer" Digulla What I would suggest is this:
Create a list of several things (and what they cost), so people can see how much money would be necessary (e.g. $100 for the domain, $60/month for an internet server, $20/h to pay some Amiga pro to implement some part of AROS).
To speed up things considerably, it would need quite a lot of money (in the range of several $1000) to pay a developer to work full time on the project.
Philippe "Elwood" Ferrucci The Amigan needs AROS fast. AROS needs developpers to be completed fast. Developpers need money. So what about giving them money to make them work for this project, for us, for our future ?
The need for money is the reality. So I think we can make it working together. How much money could be collected if ALL amigans give $1 ? I think we really can do something this way...
Philippe "Elwood" Ferrucci It would be nice to do like an AROS conquest: the collected money will be given to every coder that complete 10 functions of each Amiga library.
Nathaniel "Downix" Downes If you concentrate on the money, you'll never get anywhere. I code for several projects, little bits here and there, but never have even considered doing anything for money. True hackers do it out of love of programming.
BTW, good work, I tried out AROS on my PC not too long ago. Gonna tweak things a bit and see how it goes. You are absolutely right about UAE - emulating hardware is slow, even on a fast machine!
Stefan Brodin I'd love to see you succeed in your project, BUT, the only way of doing so (the way I see it), is by going commercial! You see, it's all about resources (and time is an important resource). These kind of projects demands huge amounts of resources (as you obviously have experienced), and the only realistic way of obtaining such amounts of resources in time, is by making the project commercial. Charity won't do it!
My suggestion to you is that you either register a private company and find an (or some) investor, OR that you register some kind of a PLC, and sells shares to the public. A "nonprofit, community owned" strategy simply won't work. It will only work against your (our) goals!
Andre Page Where do I send my $1 ? I've wasted more on less.
I don't program, so that and an encouraging word (YES!) is all I can do for now.
Stefan Rieken Don't expect too much from becoming commercial. Let me put it this way: Amiga has made the commercial version, we make the non-commercial one. If we start to become commercial, we get even more licensing problems, and we aren't any loyal to Amiga. And tragically Amiga is the best example of the problems from being commercial: it doesn't guarantee any success, and if you fail, your code is no longer supported because no-one can take it up in its spare time.
Some other things: 1) don't expect big success with your users. Linux and Apple are also good products, but still not "standard". 2) Steal code! Try to think like: what do I want, and where can I get it from without licensing problems. This is one of the good things about open source. (Off course, we will have only limited valuable resources - most free code isn't really applicable for us.) 3) We WILL get there, but it takes time, time, time. Although many people are mislead by the idea that Linux got "there" in about four years, the GNU system's utilities that Linux so heavily depends on, were worked on ever since around 1980. So it takes much patience. Commercials "get there" much quicker, but they also "loose it" much faster, and all that THEY leave is ruins, and no huge source code bases. 3) The hyperspeedsolution would be to work together with Amiga, Inc. to make a portable open source version of their system. As soon as Amiga's open source thoughts become serious - don't hesitate to jump right into it! It has been proven that a company's aid can speed up OS development dramatically - especially when they bring with them a huge code/ knowledge base!
Alan Buxey Linux has got where it is today by the dedication of a lot of coders
its now received more momentum by companies doing distros of it.
AROS could follow the same route - make sure that AROS is the sole distributer once the time comes. I think the current problem is there is a big door in the way of helping AROS. There needs to exist a nice resource that explains HOW to help guys. It is not too difficult to code a few library functions and if 50 people did this that'd be 150 parts done..in a week.
I'd love to get involved in AROS...
Hogne Titlestad Mangle in with COSA. If they won't get AmigaOS open sourced, let them get AROS open sourced ;o)
This would mean more developers. I am certain that AROS will be more important now for the average Amigan than in earlier phases of development, as people now see that AROS as a possible alternative to AmigaOS. Just release an installable demo ! ;o)) I have an intel !
Lou Cavallo Perhaps the Amiga Business community, and Amino/Amiga Corp. could advertise/support a Web site and the AROS team could pay some people (if they wish to also manage to collect funds) to take the admin load off the main developers ?
Perhaps an alternative to my idea is that an Amiga supporting company donate web space and management resources to AROS to allow a little more time for pure development work ?
One who still think that there is no better OS than Amiga's One thing which bothers me in linux is x numbers of companies delivering their own distribution which are allmost incompatible to each other distribution. I mean that if you wanna get software, you have to be sure that it's for redhat or debian or... or you have to install it by hand or even compile it..
Reason why Amiga has survived is easy usability of system. Modern os should be as easy as remote controller to use. Windows sucks, but it is far more easier to use than linux.
Aros should be coordinated by only one group and only one basic distribution (whole OS) & machine specific distributions (HIDDS, bootloader etc), not x numbers of companies and x numbers of distributions.
Unknown people Oops I lost your file (certainly into the Windows mess of the PC at work). Can you send me again your feedback ? Thanks.
Mårten Don't go commercial, it would ruin everything. Make it easier for former Amiga users (and others) to support the project. Collecting funds might be a good idea, anyway it would be an easy way to support the project for people who haven't got the time/knowledge/will to participate further.
Xavier Messersmith Make a no-BS OS that does what it should do without extraneous "features" to bog it down. The world may not immediately pick it up, but blazing alternatives to sluggish computing will be available.
George Edward Purdy After AROS is completed, writing a version of UAE for AROS should be trivial. That would solve many compatibility issues without the need for recompiling code. That will be an important issue, since a lot of former Amiga software developers seem loath to rerelease their old titles (coughcoughPsygnosiscoughcough).
Something like the GNU public license could allow AROS to flower the same way Linux has. Some day we might see Corel AROS, Red Hat AROS, et al. Hopefully one day we'll see Amiga using AROS that way, too. Amiga OS for PowerPC, Amiga OS for x86, et al., all based on AROS and the source from Amiga OS. This is one of the smartest ideas in computing today.
Never give up !
Jon DeMarks All I can say is AROS is the best thing i've seen yet. If only there was some way to install it to my laptop's HDD. It is the only Graphical OS that will run on it! It's a 486/50 with 4mb of RAM. Well, Win 3.11 will, but Win95 refuses to install. I'd love to help code this (i'm a programmer!) except i've never used an Amiga before, and they are still very expensive to buy even really old Amigas (yet another reason to get a Workbench clone on x86!

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