The Second Wind mailing list
Invitation
We would like to invite you to participate in a user-initiative that has
been discussed for many months now by a rather impressive group. The
discussion has involved half a dozen or so important Amiga veterans,
including RJ Mical, Dale Luck, David Haynie, Carl Sassenrath and others who
helped make the Amiga what it is, plus active users and developers in the
US, Canada, Europe, Africa and Japan. Giorgio Gomelsky of Amuse, the ADF,
the IAS and the Amiga TV show has played a major role, and people like Fred
Fish, Kermit Woodall and Harv Laser have also been involved.
Our discourse hasn't been naïve. We all understand that the Amiga has
been pretty badly neglected, and in many ways has fallen behind. Still, many
would like to see some continued, even improved, support of their existing
machines, as well as continued work toward next generation Amigas (and/or
their 'spiritual' descendents in whatever form they may take) as well as a
next generation OS to run on them. Discussions have resulted in the
following conclusions:
- The Amiga community, user and developer, is deeply divided, and needs to
become organized into an effective force. Both users and developers have
been sorely taken for granted, and rightly feel 'ripped off'. Nonetheless,
there reamins a tremendous latent power to be harnessed for the right sort
of solution.
- Leaving the 'Amiga redneck fundamentalists' out (the sort who would have
your hand cut off if you've ever touched a PC with it) the reasonable sort
shares certain realistic views:
- Custom chips do not an Amiga make; the OS does. Custom chips have been a
bonus in the past, but generally may have outlived their practicality - or
at least are not critically important.
- Current OS work by a variety of firms/individuals is primarily focussed
on providing a path for at least some of the OS 3.1+ code to be run on
PPC/RISC boxes - pOS is a bit of an exception, but does not seem to offer
the quantum leap required to fully meet the needs of the next generation.
Thus all these efforts, whether more or less worthy or practical or not, are
at best stopgaps, though stopgaps which could be considerably aided by an
open licensing policy by Gateway 2000.
- Survival, or, perhaps better, a metamorphosis will absolutely require
work to be done concurrently on the 'Quantum Leap OS.' Phase 5, PIOS, and
QuickPak do not appear to be able to care for this need at this point, and
even if they could tackle it later, development of an OS is a 3-5 year
project-too late to succeed.
- The Amiga community would greatly benefit from:
- A non-profit association of Amigans, organized to protect and advance
the Amiga and its software, open to representation/contacts with the other
major user/interest groups. This would be a place to organize the voices of
like-minded Amigans, to get them heard, to support an Industrial Council of
Engineers and developers, and to help fund (possibly by research grants)
appropriate development projects.
- A "council of elders" consisting of some of the high profile "creators"
of the Amiga who've been involved in discussion on the ARise list. We hope
that they will be able to provide some authority as people who 'have a
clue', as opposed to bankers, lawyers, corporate bean-counters etc. We would
hope they would help be a unifying force in the fragmented community.
The "ARise" and "Second Wind" (2W for short) mailing lists have spawned
and are run by the Jay Miner Society for the Advancement of Personal
Computing as places for discussion of the Amiga and it future users. "Second
Wind" also serves the function of giving you a chance to become familiar
with JMS organization, goals and methods, and the JMS a chance to meet you,
before you consider applying--and we consider accepting you--as a member.
There is "ARise" list is currently limited to veteran Amiga engineers, such
major developers and user reps as mentioned above, and JMS members.
After an initial "get acquainted" period, 2W list members who agree with
our general aims are currently invited to contribute $50 US for a founding
membership, which will involve annual voting rights and other membership
privileges. We will also offer affiliation options for user groups tailored
to their size. Our web pages will show you exactly how any money is spent as
a matter of policy. Also, because the JMS is organization is registered as a
not-for-profit society, its financial dealings are open to public
scrutiny.
You can join the discussion and begin to find out what's going on by
e-mailing dwarner@albany.net and
putting in the body of the message:
> please add me to second-wind <
Guidelines
Please start by introducing yourself, and giving a brief testimonial on
how you use your Amiga). Bear in mind the size of our list, and the fact
that very busy people like Amiga engineers Dave Haynie, Andy Finkel and
Michael Sinz are on both lists. Try to restrict yourself to a maximum of 5
posts on the list a day, so that everyone can "speak" without being snowed
under with mail. Remember, you are always welcome to post to people
privately.
Also, please be sure that:
- Your subject line reflects your message.
- You have read ALL the relevant posts to avoid duplication.
- That you have edited down any quoted material, and clearly indicated
whom it is from.
- You have edited and spellchecked your post to make it as clear and
concise as possible. Please remember that we have people from around the
world on here, for some of whom English is their 2nd or 3rd language.
- You have done your best to keep to a page or so, and clearly indicated
changes of subject with subheads and formatting. (That suggestion - no, plea -
is from people like Carl Sassenrath who support this effort and are
interested in your thoughts, but have mountains of e-mail to
contend with!)
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